Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[TrollAutokill]

14 hours ago, DocClox said:

What's a good strategy for managing jealousy, these days? I've got one in-love slave in a cave with a bunch of vamps that desperately need breaking in, and the poor girl is having a terrible time of it. I could just let her get on with it, and sort her out once I was done with the cave, but it seems a bit mean, even by my standards.

 

Does jealously work on line of sight? If I tether her round the corner, will that help? How about outside the cave?

 

No, line of sight would be too complex. It's enough for them to hear and their imagination does the rest.

 

Remember that

1) If they are not in love they don't get jealous.

2) If they are friends they don't get jealous of each other.

 

So one way to manage jealousy is to travel with your fresh slaves until they become friends, and hopefully they will do before changing to in love.

Edited December 9, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[Jasmine92]

2 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

Yes, that's also true. But then you miss out on mage slaves summoning atronachs to kill each other because you kissed one too many times.

There is no use for a slave, that can't behave.

 

@CliftonJD FYI: I'm using 8.1.6 now for quite some hours and it seems to be quite stable. Papyrus comes up with only one error, that does not seem to be harmful, but I wanted to let you know anyway:

[12/09/2022 - 11:39:31PM] Error: Cannot cast from None to Actor[]
stack:
	[PHHSHScenesSLA (5D0BF923)].phhshscenesla.ProcessArousals() - "phhshSceneSLA.psc" Line ?
	[alias playerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (5D008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnArousalComputed() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line ?

 

Edit: And i just found a voice line that addresses a female player as "sir": "Yes sir of course.". I did a quick check with the exported lines, but there does not seem to be a female version for that line. And if there is, then something went wrong with the voice line generation and I need to dig deeper.

Edited December 9, 2022 by Jasmine92

[InsanityFactor]

32 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

No, line of sight would be too complex. It's enough for them to hear and their imagination does the rest.

 

Remember that

1) If they are not in love they don't get jealous.

2) If they are friends they don't get jealous of each other.

 

So one way to manage jealousy is to travel with your fresh slaves until they become friends, and hopefully they will do before changing to in love.

I had my four lover slaves become friends after a while, so jealousy has mostly subsided. I just bought Nenya (Falkreath steward) in an AYGAS auction, and I have her tied up next to the "four friend harem" for judgement. I won't touch her until she is accepted by the council, because they will all get mad. Also they seem to have chosen a "leader" because while they are all friends which each other, three of them all have the same one as their best friend. I'm absolutely in love with this mechanic.

Edited December 9, 2022 by InsanityFactor

[InsanityFactor]

3 minutes ago, Jasmine92 said:

There is no use for a slave, that can't behave.

Fair enough, but it's hilarious to watch.

[MaftyX105]

Hi, I find some minor issues with DoM 3.3.1 and PAHE 8.1.6:

 

1. All my slaves enslaved after 2.12.2 seem to have the same actor values (one-handed=100, two-handed=100, sneak=100 etc.). Maybe this happened even in an earlier version. I have never checked the actor value before, and I just updated from 2.12.2 to 3.3.1. I double checked on 2.12.2 and they are already set to these values. There seems to be a script updating these values as I cannot adjust these values manually through console. Right now, only my first slave that was enslaved quite some versions ago and the one I revived after I killed her before enslavement (Salonia Caelia) kept their original actor values.

 

2. I am playing a vampire character, and only some of the slaves will have a feed option in the message box. Turning the vampire cattle on/off in PAHE's MCM doesn't seem to change anything.

Edited December 10, 2022 by w740su
typo

[sidfu1]

13 hours ago, banditguy said:

maybe take your tone down? you dont need to berate people for reading the description all the time lol. the description is massive, people may miss out on details, chill out mate.

 you state a fact and its  your "tone" is to strong.....
makes you wonder when these people realize that everyone is different and even how they type things is different. well this topic is done and dont expect any more replies as my "tone" might be to strong...


 

[kohlteth]

20 hours ago, natybs said:

does this mod or other paradise halls mods touch the harthfire house basements? I all of a Sudan have a weird few new room in my basements and one of them conflicts with the ae fishing room? 

 Check if you installed the optional PAHE Basement plugin it adds to basements, also check you are running the latest PAHE as I thought @CliftonJD fixed the clash between fishing CC and PAHE

 

@TrollAutokill How do I stop the "Tracking Thugs" quest from re-activating when I TP or load a save please?

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by kohlteth

[banditguy]

3 hours ago, sidfu1 said:

 you state a fact and its  your "tone" is to strong.....
makes you wonder when these people realize that everyone is different and even how they type things is different. well this topic is done and dont expect any more replies as my "tone" might be to strong...

i didnt make that statement to attack you, i just felt off put by your wording when replying to a guy that was making his first ever post in loverslab. maybe take things a little lighter on new people? your excuse of "everyone types different" doesnt excuse you from snarky replies. but yea as you said, topics is done, back to business as usual ?

Edited December 10, 2022 by banditguy

[DocClox]

8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

So one way to manage jealousy is to travel with your fresh slaves until they become friends, and hopefully they will do before changing to in love.

 

Not going to work. I tend to travel with one of them as a pack mule, and she gets to be around when I break in new slaves. Didn't help that these were Deadly Wench vampires, with unplayable necklaces, so I couldn't just slap a leashing collar on them and take care of training later.

 

You know what DoM/PAHE needs? A disenchantable collar, so we can slap a leashing enchantment on any item. A leashing tattoo would work too.

[TrollAutokill]

9 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

I had my four lover slaves become friends after a while, so jealousy has mostly subsided. I just bought Nenya (Falkreath steward) in an AYGAS auction, and I have her tied up next to the "four friend harem" for judgement. I won't touch her until she is accepted by the council, because they will all get mad. Also they seem to have chosen a "leader" because while they are all friends which each other, three of them all have the same one as their best friend. I'm absolutely in love with this mechanic.

There are only 4 friends to each actors, so you're unfortunately reaching the limit with Nenya.

 

[InsanityFactor]

29 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

There are only 4 friends to each actors, so you're unfortunately reaching the limit with Nenya.

 

Shit.

[sidfu1]

how do you change the pose. i input the name in mcm but they still do old pose. the string should be right as i want them to use gspose 402 so put in GS402.

also found another faction bug. for campfire  slaves can be part of the factions to tell you its illgal to camp here. this causes them to stand there till you tell them something like entertain me resets their AI.

[Kharos]

I mentioned it before, but I would like to repeat it so it does not get lost.

 

As am mage I resent my cleaning staff throwing away the books that I put on the bookshelves?. I assume that it is hard to detect this situation (stuff is on a shelf), so could we have a general option that prevents them from "cleaning up" books (including both regular books and spell books), similar to how we have one for scrolls? This mage would appreciate it a lot @TrollAutokill ?

Edited December 10, 2022 by Kharos

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

Shit.

If you think it's too little, now is a good time to argue.

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, sidfu1 said:

how do you change the pose. i input the name in mcm but they still do old pose. the string should be right as i want them to use gspose 402 so put in GS402.

also found another faction bug. for campfire  slaves can be part of the factions to tell you its illgal to camp here. this causes them to stand there till you tell them something like entertain me resets their AI.

Poses in MCM are for the attention and kneel interactions only.

[TrollAutokill]

5 hours ago, Kharos said:

I mentioned it before, but I would like to repeat it so it does not get lost.

 

As am mage I resent my cleaning staff throwing away the books that I put on the bookshelves?. I assume that it is hard to detect this situation (stuff is on a shelf), so could we have a general option that prevents them from "cleaning up" books (including both regular books and spell books), similar to how we have one for scrolls? This mage would appreciate it a lot @TrollAutokill ?

Oh, you mean there is no option in the MCM to turn off books from being picked up. I will add that one.

[InsanityFactor]

5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

If you think it's too little, now is a good time to argue.

No, I think it's fair enough. This is the first time I've bothered to have this many in-love slaves and balance their relationships, so reaching the cap for the first time is fair. More than 4 could get complicated, I'd say leave it as it is.

[Musje]

On 12/9/2022 at 11:46 PM, Jasmine92 said:

There is no use for a slave, that can't behave.

 

@CliftonJD FYI: I'm using 8.1.6 now for quite some hours and it seems to be quite stable. Papyrus comes up with only one error, that does not seem to be harmful, but I wanted to let you know anyway:

[12/09/2022 - 11:39:31PM] Error: Cannot cast from None to Actor[]
stack:
	[PHHSHScenesSLA (5D0BF923)].phhshscenesla.ProcessArousals() - "phhshSceneSLA.psc" Line ?
	[alias playerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (5D008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnArousalComputed() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line ?

 

 

 

That is an error in HSH.  One that unfortunately I can't get rid of.

[Jasmine92]

I just noticed, that my papyrus log gets spammed with a LOT of debug messages and I was wondering which mod caused them. Since the PAHE Slave names are used in the logging and the actions done look like DoM (force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack) I believe they are caused by DoM, even after disabling Debug mode and logging, the papyrus log gets flooded:

(oh and it looks like the DoM patched Version of AYGAS does not seem to recognize HSH)

Spoiler

[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:20PM] HSH: Reassign trainers by taskmaster Taskmistress Thiirchel
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:20PM] HSH: Reassign trainers by taskmaster Taskmistress Krisandra
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] PAHDSlave: Kimli start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] PAHDSlave: Kimli end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() = TRUE 

Debugging is off:

 

AYGAS not finding HSH?

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Jasmine92

[DocClox]

Should the "Train Kimli" quest advance once I find Drelas? I found him, he was hostile as always so I killed him and enslaved Kimli. But the quest still says "Find Drelas" which makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

 

[edit]

 

OK. What happened was that after I killed Drelas. Kimli was running out the door, so I enslaved her as a fleeing target. The quest marker then changed to point at Olva, but the text was unchanged, hence my confusion. One I found the "You're Kimli, right?" dialogue option, it sorted itself out.

Edited December 11, 2022 by DocClox

[wagg0]

On 12/9/2022 at 3:57 PM, DocClox said:

 

There's a "Sting" spell in the Slaver's Spellbook that does almost exactly that. Well, it's more like a 1pt lightning bolt. There's also a Discipline spell that sprays shock effect at close range.

 

Be a little cautious in using them. Discipline, in particular, can generate punishment events far faster than Papyrus can process them, and if you're not careful, you can end up with your game badly lagged.

Thanks I will try

[natybs]

On 12/6/2022 at 9:23 AM, TrollAutokill said:

Your slave is not ready. You might have to do more training.

ok but it is still saying that and this slave has level 100 in everything accept pose and humiliation and anger training and all of those are over 60…

 

[TrollAutokill]

4 hours ago, natybs said:

ok but it is still saying that and this slave has level 100 in everything accept pose and humiliation and anger training and all of those are over 60…

 

You need over 70 in all 6 base stats.

[TrollAutokill]

9 hours ago, Jasmine92 said:

I just noticed, that my papyrus log gets spammed with a LOT of debug messages and I was wondering which mod caused them. Since the PAHE Slave names are used in the logging and the actions done look like DoM (force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack) I believe they are caused by DoM, even after disabling Debug mode and logging, the papyrus log gets flooded:

(oh and it looks like the DoM patched Version of AYGAS does not seem to recognize HSH)

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[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:18PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:20PM] HSH: Reassign trainers by taskmaster Taskmistress Thiirchel
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:20PM] HSH: Reassign trainers by taskmaster Taskmistress Krisandra
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:21PM] Kili CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] Iachilla CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] PAHDSlave: Kimli start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:22PM] PAHDSlave: Kimli end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:23PM] Fryssa CanIdle() = TRUE 
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Morgte end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Nicolene end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril start force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:24PM] PAHDSlave: Firenteril end force sendanimationevent=IdleHandsBehindBack
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() bActorCanNotIdle = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() IsAnimating = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() is_moving = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() bounded = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() weapon drawn / comabt = False / False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() the_actor.GetSitState = 0
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() GetIsDrunkPassedout = False
[12/11/2022 - 09:48:27PM] Kili CanIdle() = TRUE 

Debugging is off:

 

AYGAS not finding HSH?

 

Go to the animation tab in DoM MCM and turn off animations/idles debugging.

[TrollAutokill]

9 hours ago, DocClox said:

Should the "Train Kimli" quest advance once I find Drelas? I found him, he was hostile as always so I killed him and enslaved Kimli. But the quest still says "Find Drelas" which makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

 

[edit]

 

OK. What happened was that after I killed Drelas. Kimli was running out the door, so I enslaved her as a fleeing target. The quest marker then changed to point at Olva, but the text was unchanged, hence my confusion. One I found the "You're Kimli, right?" dialogue option, it sorted itself out.

Yes, I didn't want to edit Drela's record for the sake of compatibility. Talking to Kimli to identify her is the only way to check this objective. The quest marker updates anyhow and Olava should recognize her and you should be allowed to progress to the next objective without checking the "Find Kimli" objective.

Edited December 12, 2022 by TrollAutokill